Thanks to Peter for the link to this one here:
http://www.itnews.com.au/News/158006,acs-gives-conditional-thumbs-up-to-internet-filtering.aspx

Get the splinters out of your backsides ACS. Did you need to create this piece of work to justify your existence or are you trying to come across as a voice of reason…or do you truly believe you’ve come up with something groundbreaking?

Regardless, you look dumb and as irrelevant as always. A personal opinion. Just my thoughts and as usual, opening myself up to flames. :)



  1. ACS says:

    How dare you question us elite? What are your credentials? You sound like someone we rejected for our society!

  2. Drazen Drazic says:

    LULZ….you funny buggers. We all know the elite of ACS wouldn’t lower themselves to the real world here. :)

    One thing I like about Oz is all you shit stirrers. It’s part of our culture. :)

  3. Big Galoot says:

    Just when the entire Aussie IT community had unanimously rallied together in the fight against internet filtering…

    Enter stage left: The Australian Computer Society. “We think internet filtering is a good idea.”

    Well you’ve gotta hand it to the ACS. They’re about as popular as a turd in a swimming pool.

    The good ol’ ACS, a horn-rimmed, cardigan-wearing society whose relevance began to seriously wane – around the same time punch cards became all the rage.

    I thank you, ACS, for your comment. And, as always, stick it firmly where the sun don’t shine.

  4. Marketing says:

    From the ACS Report:

    “The ACS (Australian Computer Society) is the recognised professional association for those working
    in Information and Communications Technology, seeking to raise the standing of ICT professionals and
    represent their views to government, industry and the community.
    A member of the Australian Council of Professions, the ACS is the guardian of professional ethics and
    standards in the ICT sector, committed to ensuring the bene? cial use of ICT for all Australians.
    It provides both members and non-members with opportunities for professional development,
    networking and certi? cation, as well as enabling them to contribute to the growth of their profession.
    Visit http://www.acs.org.au for more information.
    About the Australian
    Computer Society”

    Didn’t these guys get into some trouble a few years back in being creative with who they are and what they do?

    I didn’t recognise them as the body to represent me. I have nothing to do with them and few if any people I know do. They’re *the* “guardian” of my industry? Since when? They do not represent me, my ethics, standards nor my views.

    How do they get away with that?

  5. Drazen Drazic says:

    Interesting to see previous positions by the ACS on filtering:

    http://twitter.com/bob_bain/status/4853956960

    http://twitter.com/bob_bain/status/4853922347

  6. AISA says:

    They have infiltrated and are part of it. No one can be trusted!

    AISA is hopeless but improving and getting better. Put your hand up if you know and ACS person?

    I am ACS person and what a waste of money that has been!

  7. Philip Argy says:

    These don’t seem to be very well-informed comments, guys. Which part of the actual report, as distinct from the news report that you linked to, do you not agree with?

    Here’s what we ACTUALLY had to say:
    http://www.acs.org.au/ispfiltering

    Intelligent criticism is welcomed. If you can show where we’re wrong, we’ll probably invite you to join our task force to make the next report even better.

  8. Wireghoul says:

    @Phillip,

    That PDF is just full of lulz, thank you for that!

    As a former ACS member, I’ve never felt that I got anything back from being a member.

    I’m too lazy to look for the answers, but perhaps you can enlighten me. How much of your member base falls in to this category, http://www.acs.org.au/ictcareers/index.cfm?action=load&temID=noticedetails&notID=857 ? Is your organization a cross cut of the Australian IT community or just the migrant section?

  9. Jay says:

    Phillip,

    I’ve already posted my thoughts in response to that official post.

    In response to the article however, its just a shame ethics don’t factor into the ACS’ response.

  10. Philip Argy says:

    Thanks, Jay – which response do you feel lacks an ethical component?

  11. John O'k says:

    The ACS paper put together by supposed experts who few in the Information Security industry would support as “experts” and pretending to represent the industry is embarrassing to our industry.

    We are not stupid. Someone who presents at conferences does not make for an expert opinion or represent us. We all know how conference speakers in Australia are selected by the money driven conference organisers. Anyone can speak at a conference and once they have spoken, the are usually asked back again to fill spots to make more money for the organisers. These people are not experts.

    I cannot recall the last time you Drazen spoke at a local conference or the other people in this industry who really make a difference.

    The ACS clings to the media types who we all laugh and cringe at. As I said, this is embarrassing to us all.

    ACS, you have no right, no authority and no credentials to speak for us. Represent yourselves as the ACS but not as the body that represents IT in Australia!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  12. Philip Argy says:

    And who do YOU represent, John?

  13. Catch 22 says:

    All this talk in this blog is a bit of a Catch 22.

    It has given this ACS mob publicity within the security industry, undeserved.

    On the other side, it’s been a load on their backs having to confront real industry people and some reality. They can make it work or they can continue to be easy targets based upon their stupid ignorant and arrogant self opinions of their worth and value.

    @Phil, after all the discussion, isn’t it clear that it does not matter who JoK represents. That argument from ACS side is now so worn and tired. We don’t have to represent anyone but ourselves. ACS is nothing to any of us.

    If you want to get people onside, listen and learn. An arrogant approach to this only alienates you people more.

    CIO
    Top 10 Company
    (I would use my name but I cannot due to company policy)

  14. Philip Argy says:

    Merry Christmas/Happy Chanukah everyone – thanks for the sparring practice.

    And after that anniversary of the three wise men, please have yourselves an awesome twenty-ten!

  15. Sammy says:

    I was looking into ACS membership. This is enough information for me to definitively decide against. Thanks for saving me thousands of dollars over the years.

  16. Philip Argy says:

    Pleased to see you’ve done such a rigorous due diligence, Sammy.